eGroups Daily Digest: afb has 100 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47967 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 47967. Paul Crellin Re: freebies 47968. Paolo Rinaldi Re: The EMC opinion 47969. Will Re: Am I missing the point ? 47970. Chris Green Re: IMPORTANT: Read me 47971. Will Re: Will we get the G4s? 47972. Eric Oddy Re: freebies 47973. Bert Volders Re: VGA monitor 47974. Sean FT Re: VGA monitor 47975. Gerald Mellor Re: SRTICQ prob 47976. Gerald Mellor Re: Will we get the G4s? 47977. Gerald Mellor OS3.5 help 47978. Gerald Mellor MCP 47979. Bert Volders Re: OS3.5 help 47980. Oliver Roberts Re: IMPORTANT: Read me 47981. Oliver Esberger Help! I've shot my IDE HD! 47982. Paul Cundle Re: freebies 47983. Gerald Mellor Re: Am I missing the point ? 47984. Bert Volders Re: which one is the best? 47985. David Porter Re: Amiga & Realaudio 47986. Gerald Mellor Re: OS3.5 help 47987. darren glenn YAM 47988. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= HTML question 47989. Andrew Crowe Re: ADF Games 47990. Andrew Crowe Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. 47991. Andrew Crowe Re: fusion and shapeshifter 47992. Andrew Crowe Re: Pirated OS3.5 47993. Sean FT Re: OS3.5 help 47994. Gareth Knight Re: java 'n' hex 47995. Gareth Knight Re: POLL: What do you think about the A600? 47996. Gareth Knight Re: A crappy announcement to have to make 47997. Gareth Knight Re: New ish 47998. Steven Holmes Thanks for CDRW help 47999. Steven Holmes MakeCD help! 48000. Gerald Mellor Re: OS3.5 help 48001. graeme meek AWEB SE OS3.5 48002. Sean FT Re: The bigger the stick,the bbigger the bump. 48003. Eric Oddy Re: ADF Games 48004. Eric Oddy P.Cs threat on my life 48005. Andy Mills Re: HTML question 48006. Gerald Mellor Re: P.Cs threat on my life 48007. Alex Paton Re: AWEB SE OS3.5 48008. Sean FT Re: OS3.5 help 48009. Eric Oddy Re: P.Cs threat on my life 48010. Andy Mills Re: fusion and shapeshifter 48011. Stephen Webber Re: OS3.5 help 48012. Sean FT ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.......... 48013. Tudor Davies Re: Where's Tudor (broken leg) was Sorry for bei 48014. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Re: OS3.5 help 48015. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Re: SRTICQ prob 48016. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Re: HTML question 48017. Dauber DOpus AppIcons 48018. Gerald Mellor Re: OS3.5 help 48019. Gerald Mellor Re: OS3.5 help 48020. Gerald Mellor Re: OS3.5 help 48021. Richard Lane Re: DOpus AppIcons 48022. Pekka Sippola Re: fusion and shapeshifter 48023. Jon Barker Re: SRTICQ prob 48024. Ian Henderson Re: Help!! 48025. Jon Barker Re: YAM 48026. Simon Hitchen Re: OS3.5 help 48027. Tudor Davies Zorro III Memory 48028. David Plunkett Re: fusion and shapeshifter 48029. Will Re: Am I missing the point ? 48030. Alex Furmanski Re: HTML question 48031. Peter Hutchison Re: Uninitialized Partition 48032. Peter Hutchison Re: Amiga & Realaudio 48033. Peter Hutchison Re: Installing linuxPPC 1999 - xwindows problem 48034. Peter Hutchison Re: VistaPro + PPC 48035. Peter Hutchison Re: jammed e-mail 48036. Peter Hutchison Re: UK Aminet 48037. Andrew Crowe Re: Will we get the G4s? 48038. Ken Walsh Re: Another free-calls Internet service 48039. Ken Walsh error 48040. Ken Walsh Re: A1200 Qs 48041. Sean FT Re: Uninitialized Partition 48042. Sean FT Re: error 48043. George Davis Ancient Sony Monitor 48044. Matthew O'Neill Re: Pink Panther stole my jewel 48045. Matthew O'Neill Re: Cd videos 48046. Matthew O'Neill Re: Help!! 48047. Matthew O'Neill Re: More A1200 Qs 48048. Matthew O'Neill Re: More A1200 Qs 48049. Matthew O'Neill Re: YAM 48050. Oliver Roberts Re: DOpus AppIcons 48051. James Potter Re: Am I missing the point ? 48052. Matthew O'Neill ami yellow pages 48053. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: Sound cards 48054. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: New ABC 48055. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: Yamaha 8424S (internal) Questions 48056. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: V 48057. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: CD writer problems 48058. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: Guess what's on AF135? 48059. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: Keyboards again 48060. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: VistaPro + PPC 48061. Alan L.M. Buxey Re: More silly ideas from a newbie 48062. Matthew O'Neill Re: bt go home 48063. Daniel Thornton Re: V 48064. Alex Furmanski Re: More A1200 Qs 48065. Sean FT Re: New ABC or XYZ %-) 48066. Oliver Esberger Re: Zorro III Memory ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 47967 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47967 From: Paul Crellin Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:41:29 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: freebies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf files with no icon. Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable games? All help welcome. See You, P.C. ------------------------------ message 47968 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47968 From: "Paolo Rinaldi" Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:16:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: The EMC opinion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Once upon a time, there was someone, Matthew O'Neill, who enlightened the world about [afb] Re: The EMC opinion > > I have been lurking on the afb since it's inception and one thing > > that has surprised me is the amount of whinging; the price of "X" > > software, > > ??? N one has complained about the price of anything. Could you > please quote 1 mail where someone says that a piece of software costs too much? > If you show me 1, I'll show you 10 where people say they're willing to pay > more. Not that I want to start a flame war, but here's a mail sent to this list some time ago: >>> A mixture of 2.95 and the demo of V to test my JS >> How can you be?!"?!?!?! You think MUI's rubbish so you must have >> deleted it from your hard drive!?!?!?!?! > Its not rubbish, its just not worth 20 for it, even with the extra > options you get. Now sod off!, as I said I~ll wait and see what 4.0 > offers! Regards, Paolo ... Newsflash! Explosion at M$ beta testsite - Infinite number of monkeys killed. -- Amiga 1200 040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 13 GB, CD 24x, OS 3.5 Paolo Rinaldi amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it lazybone@diff.org ------------------------------ message 47969 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47969 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:58:32 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gerald mellor wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47958 > On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote: > > I have just set up an A500 with to do video titling - should I throw > > it away? > > No, that's great that you have a use for it, but you shouldn't expect > the rest of us to be held back because software developers feel the > need to support the lowest common denominator. Which they did, for a > long time. I don't have anything against A500s, I just don't see the > need for a modern Amiga magazine to cover them. I own several 500s as well as several 1200s. I intend to continue to use all of them, if AF do not want my money fine. There are many millions of people who still own perfectly good A500s but never use them. There is money to be made in this area. Take a look at the type of programmes that sell on pcs, loads of emulators to run old arcade games which are as popular today as ever. However it is pointless expecting to sell anything in high numbers through AF or AA, however www.Download.com could reach a worldwide market. > > Yes I read that, evidently the reason that Amiga failed was due to > > people not upgrading their systems. > > That's probably true, or maybe it was because people upgraded their > systems and then stole software to run on them. It`s neither of those reasons. > > It was that statement which told me all I needed to know about Amiga > > journalism. > > It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but > couldn't due to fear of losing sales. If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales? > If your computer system does what you want it to, then like I said, > that's great :) But you don't see PC magazines supporting 15 year old > machines, it's not surprising that Amiga magazines don't have any > A500 coverage these days. That`s actually not true I have seen Windows 3.1, Locoscript and PL/2 advised upon. To succeed in marketing you need to give customers what they want not try to tell them what they want and sneer at requests. >If we don't buy Amiga magazines > (among other things) sales will dwindle until practically every > company has left our platform. They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing anything worthwhile anymore. > > There is a great list on onelist called Amiga Hacks, > Wow, it's full of people who don't care about the future.. sounds > great. > Actually no, it is full of people who are technically well-informed about every type of Amiga under the sun and who are prepared to give genuine practical assistance. Same as that excellent organisation; Amiga.soc who are not judgemental and give open handed support. Will ------------------------------ message 47970 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47970 From: "Chris Green" Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:35:55 -0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: IMPORTANT: Read me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > USA LAW : Guilty till proven innocent I agree - string him up :) Chris Green Technical Editor - Computing VNU Business Publications, 32-34 Broadwick Street, London, W1A 2HG .................................................................. Fax: +44 (0)207 316 9160 Email: chris_green@vnu.co.uk ICQ: 10921400 URL: http://computing.vnunet.com .................................................................. ------------------------------ message 47971 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47971 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:58:20 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: <38AEFB08.14E971F8@cybercomm.nl> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I seem to recall an American internet site advertising G4 for A500s Cheers Will. ------------------------------ message 47972 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47972 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:00:47 -0800 From: "Eric Oddy" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: freebies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit paul crellin wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47967 > Hello All, > > Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf > files with no icon. > Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable > games? > > All help welcome. > > See You, P.C. > Hi P.C, I think you'll find that adf refers to amiga disk file and probably need putting on floppies. Boot from DF0: perhaps. I never tried the sites, I only passed on the info from the magazine article. Anyway, most of the fun in having a computer is getting the thing to do what you want. One way or another;) If that dopesn't work let me know and I'll download a couple and try them myself. CIAO Eric ------------------------------ message 47973 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47973 From: Bert Volders Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:05:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: VGA monitor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Simon On 19-feb-00, you wrote: What I want to > know from you guys and gals out there is will this be better than my M1= 438S > or should it go in the skip with the the 386 desktop? Depends on the hardware you're connecting it and the size of the screen. = I'm using a VGA monitor hooked on the PICASSO IV and it is one of the bes= t things I bought for the Amiga. So I would say that if the VGA has a bi= gger screen and smaller dot-size AND your setup is capable of delivering = an VGA compatible signal then use it. If not keep it as a spare in case t= he M1438S gets sick. > = > Cheers, > Simon > = > = > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > AFB: All polls MUST have dates, and if you have something to > sell use AmiBench! http://www.amibench.org/ > = > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=3Dafb&m=3D1 > = > = Regards -- = Bert Volders bert@volders.demon.nl Tag of the day: I like work ... I can sit and watch it for hours. ------------------------------ message 47974 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47974 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:15:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: VGA monitor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Simon On 20-Feb-00,Bert wrote: > Depends on the hardware you're connecting it and the size of the screen. > I'm using a VGA monitor hooked on the PICASSO IV and it is one of the best > things I bought for the Amiga. So I would say that if the VGA has a bigger > screen and smaller dot-size AND your setup is capable of delivering an VGA > compatible signal then use it. If not keep it as a spare in case the > M1438S gets sick. I agree with Bert since i bought my VGA monitor and graphic card 4 years ago i have never looked back.I have always used the 15/16 bit modes never needed the pal ones, CybergraphX converts it when i need to use the bootup screen so theres no problem. If it fits use it,thats what i say? Cheers, Sean POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------ message 47975 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47975 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:48:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: SRTICQ prob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jani, >> Use version 0.1578 of STRICQ from >> >> http://www-stu.cai.cam.ac.uk/~mnw21/stricq/beta/ > Whoa, it appears I am using an old version (0.13XX IIRC)! Thanks! Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here, which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :) Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47976 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47976 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:57:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <38AEFB08.14E971F8@cybercomm.nl> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gerrit-kjeld, > You seem to forget that we don't have a native PPC-OS. I hear a lot > of talk how fast the 68xxx emu. is on the PPC, but people seem to > forget that the PPC has more things to do then just that in real > life. I haven't *forgotten*, but the PPC software we have at the moment will still run a lot faster on a G3 than on current 603/604 based cards, even with the 68k emulator slowing things down. > Say you wanna run a PPC-program, because we don't have a native > PPC-OS, the emu. must be running also for the OS side. Do you really > think that it will be that fast then? Yes. :) Seriously, I don't really know, but it had better be, no one's going to buy the new cards if running software on them is slower than what's currently available.. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47977 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47977 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:21:30 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even started: Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3. What's up and how do I fix it? :) Cheers, Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47978 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47978 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:26:56 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] MCP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can any MCP gurus out there give me a hand? Since installing OS3.1 ready for installation of 3.5, it's popping up with a requestor telling me: !!Vector changed!! INT_OpenScreenTagslist Can't remove patch! Does anyone know which function of MCP is giving me this error, so that I can turn it off :) Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47979 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47979 From: Bert Volders Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:29:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Gerald On 19-feb-00, you wrote: > = > Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3. > = > What's up and how do I fix it? :) > = You did the pre-install first? If so and the problem remains you could al= ways use DirectoryOpus(5.x) and install it by hand. ;-) Also, try using SnoopDOS and find the call that causes the error. Regards -- = Bert Volders bert@volders.demon.nl Tag of the day: Out of tag lines. Not enough phantasy. = -- Bert Volders ------------------------------ message 47980 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47980 Date: 19 Feb 2000 21:54:57 +0000 From: "Oliver Roberts" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: IMPORTANT: Read me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00 19:25:35 GMT, adam james wrote: > On 19-Feb-00, you wrote >>> So to all those people who sent me offensive email"s get your facts >>> right Before sending those sort of email's >> >> Well, to be fair, how was anyone supposed to know that those email's >> weren't from you? Come to think of it, we're still only taking your >> word for it that you *didn't* send them. >> > Yep i agree , that was a very good point you made > > People don't have to believe me but at least i can defend myself on here I declare this thread a dead one. *No more follow-ups here please!* This issue should never have been brought up here in the first place (my fault, sorry). It's a private matter between me and Adam. As far as I'm concerned, Adam is welcome here, as long as he obeys the rules that Ben has set out in the Welcome FAQ. If people here are sending abusive e-mails to Adam, please stop it - it's not a nice thing to do. Please let this be the end of the matter, and stop wasting bandwidth on off-topic postings. End of story. -- *Oliver Roberts* - Norwich, UK - Software Developer & Web Designer /oliver.roberts@iname.com/ | /oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ - ICQ: 34640231 -- Upgrade your Pace 56 Solo ==> http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/soloup/ ------------------------------ message 47981 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47981 From: Oliver Esberger Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:24:42 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Help! I've shot my IDE HD! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all! I think I've broke my IDE HD! I am using an A4000T with a SCSI HD and an IDE HD. Today I've installed the DirectSCSI version of PFS2 to the RDBs, I have been using the normal version of PFS2 before, but I was told the DirectSCSI version is ever so slightly faster. It all went very well, and all my SCSI partitions are now working just like before, so I went on installing the thing onto the IDE HD (the PFS2 manual says the DirectSCSI version works with A4000 IDE as well) After I've added the filesystem to the RDB, I rebooted, but now my Amiga seems to be trapped in a loop: it recognizes the IDE HD and crashes, recognizes the IDE HD andcrashes... etc. It seems it does not like something about the RDB, since this is the only thing that has changed... unfortunately I have no idea what has gone wrong, maybe I've installed the same FS twice, but surely HDToolbox would not let me do that? So my problem now is, that I'm only left with the SCSI drive. It is not too bad, as I have made an update of my Internet partition (pure luck!), so I've only lost my Games partition (games can be reinstalled) and my Mac partition ..NO backup :( Does anyone here know how I can repair my drive? I know that since I've very likely destroyed the RDB I will have to reformat the drive, but currently not even this is possible because my Amiga won't start as long as the drive is connected... Disabling all partitions in the early startup menu does not help, the RDB seems to be read nevertheless... Another weird problem is that since I removed the IDE HD, every access to hypercom30z.library crashes my system. I had this problem before, but a ramlib stack patch resolved it. Now it won't work under any circumstance (NO patches (apart from P96), ramlib stack at 16 kB). This is extremely odd because I can't see any link between a Harddrive and a Serial board... Thanks for any help! Regards, -- Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de ------------------------------ message 47982 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47982 From: "Paul Cundle" Date: 19 Feb 2000 22:39:51 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88n3qf$q65a@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: freebies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MSGTO: Eric Oddy SUBJECT: [afb] Re: freebies > > Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf > > files with no icon. > > Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable > > games? Same here. > I think you'll find that adf refers to amiga disk file and probably > need putting on floppies. Boot from DF0: perhaps. On the latest AFCD (50) in -serious-/misc there's a proggy called UnADF. Unfortunately, the one I tried it on says something about an incorrect bootblock. Reading the docs suggests this occurs on a lot of games :( Try it. > CIAO Eric BTW, Eric, could you change to sending mails as text not HTML please or you'll get attacked from a great height with something very heavy. Possibly. Paul C, where there is no atmosphere -- ------------------------------ message 47983 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47983 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:39:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88n05o$km6a@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote: > I own several 500s as well as several 1200s. I intend to continue to > use all of them, if AF do not want my money fine. I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in AF, this is the place to mention it. > There are many millions of people who still own perfectly good A500s > but never use them. There is money to be made in this area. Take a > look at the type of programmes that sell on pcs, loads of emulators > to run old arcade games which are as popular today as ever. Thos programs don't "sell" on the PC, they're programs that people download for free from the Internet. I don't see how anyone's making money through MAME or UAE or through all the ROM and disk images on the net. >>> Yes I read that, evidently the reason that Amiga failed was due >>> to people not upgrading their systems. >> >> That's probably true, or maybe it was because people upgraded their >> systems and then stole software to run on them. > > It`s neither of those reasons. So what do you suggest *is* the reason? I'm fairly certain both those things had a major part to play in it. >> It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but >> couldn't due to fear of losing sales. > > If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales? I didn't say it was obsolete back them, but if games companies had taken a risk and released software that required faster machines, more people would have upgraded. Instead, for years we got shit games without the features of their PC counterparts because in their opinion the Amiga wasn't capable of it. Take a look at Championship Manager 2 for an example. > That`s actually not true I have seen Windows 3.1, Locoscript and > PL/2 advised upon. To succeed in marketing you need to give > customers what they want not try to tell them what they want and > sneer at requests. But, like I said originally, I don't think AF *do* sneer at A500 users. > They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing > anything worthwhile anymore. So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know. Or perhaps you don't know, since you don't read Amiga mags anymore... Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47984 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47984 From: Bert Volders Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:42:28 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: which one is the best? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Erol On 17-feb-00, you wrote: You wondered if =A3800 was a lot for an A3000? Well it is, as I said. Now= I just found a nice A4000 on Amibench, complete with PPC/060 and loads o= f cool bits for =A3600 That sounds like a better thing to do to me. Regards -- = Bert Volders bert@volders.demon.nl *** End of forwarded message *** That's it, that's that. -- = Bert Volders bert@volders.demon.nl Tag of the day: Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. -- Lily Tomlin ------------------------------ message 47985 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47985 From: "David Porter" Date: 19 Feb 2000 22:52:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Amiga & Realaudio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Czoem * *! > Dnia 14-Lut-00 napisae fantastyczn notk na temat:"*[afb] Amiga & Realaudio*" > > Is it possible to listen to radio stations (or anything else) that > > broadcast using the format audio/x-pn-realaudio? I'm using V3 at the > > moment (warts n'all) > > Try unrealaudio - Aminet. > > Cheers for that. PS Welcome to AFB Dave ------------------------------ message 47986 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47986 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 22:54:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Bert Volders wrote: >> Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3. >> >> What's up and how do I fix it? :) > > You did the pre-install first? If so and the problem remains you > could always use DirectoryOpus(5.x) and install it by hand. ;-) > > Also, try using SnoopDOS and find the call that causes the error. Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use it :) Any other suggestions? If it helps, the line in installer fails on is: (effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000) Bauglir ------------------------------ message 47987 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47987 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:16:06 -0800 From: "darren glenn" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] YAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I cannot send e-mails at all through yam or any other e-mail program this is really annoying me now My config is fine and it works on my brothers. Ive tryed everything, tryed using several accounts, reinstalled yam, genisis, workbench partion and still it doesnt work why? can anyone help please im desperate. email me on darren@glenn1000.freesreve.co.uk Daz ------------------------------ message 47988 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47988 From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:30:40 +0300 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET? Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS or JavaScript? - Jani -- "The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity" ------------------------------ message 47989 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47989 From: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:45:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <200002180205.CAA09372@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > ADFs themselves aren't illegal, anymore than mp3s are illegal. It's = > the things people do with them that's illegal. I think it's technically= = > still illegal to download commercial games, even ones that were first = > released over 10 years ago, as i doubt the copyright on them has = > expired. *But*, for games that old, I don't think many people would = > mind, it's hard to see what market you could be damaging, although = > you are supporting the Evil pirates in doing so. Or an Amiga = > company could buy the rights to those games and then distribute = > them on a CD, so by downloading them you could be harming sales = > of that... Actually, pirate games on any system are potentially harming sales of = amiga games: Why buy commercial games for one system when you alreay have= a load of free ones? I mean, who needs Wipeout2097 when I can get Wip3ou= t for a fiver? (not that I /could/ run Wipeout2097 on my amiga, even if I= wanted to ;) See ya :) -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update = - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Child actress Drew Barrymore hosted SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE on November 20th, 1982 when she was seven years old. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------ message 47990 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47990 From: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:40:49 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88jhtk$qg0i@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > My pcmcia port on my a1200 has a bent pin and a broken port guide. Is > there anyway i can fix this without paying for an expensive repair. This happened to my pcmcia port, if you have a very small flathead scr= ewdriver and a steady hand, you can push the pins back into place. As for= the broken guide, it's no big deal, I'd ignore it if I were you. See ya :) -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update = - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Just what do you think you are doing Dave? Put down that Windows disk Dave. DAVE! ------------------------------ message 47991 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47991 From: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:35:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88kiql$3jug@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition > for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try > out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the > problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is > not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an > ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly helpfull= > and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk but= > still have the ability to use fusion. You could set the partition as non-automount, and run fusion from a sc= ript that mounts the partition then runs fusion. I'm afraid /I'm/ not sur= e how to do all that though :/ See ya :) -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update = - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own, -- Ace of Base ------------------------------ message 47992 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47992 From: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:42:57 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, > Don't you think it was a bit stupid posting that URL to a public > mailing list with nearly a thousand people subscribed? Nope, I reckon everyone that /wants/ OS3.5 has already got it, and eve= ryone else who don't want it probably wouldn't even go through the hastle= of downloading it. See ya :) -- = Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update = - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - It's a cruel, cruel summer, leaving me here on my own, -- Ace of Base ------------------------------ message 47993 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47993 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:50:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerald On 19-Feb-00, you wrote: > Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really > tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use > it :) Any other suggestions? > > If it helps, the line in installer fails on is: > (effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000) What are you using for a cd rom driver? POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone? -- Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------ message 47994 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47994 From: "Gareth Knight" References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:02:43 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: java 'n' hex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Drummond had thirty seconds on the clock: > (197 = 12 x 16 + 5) Ever thought about going on Countdown Rich? -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet! ------------------------------ message 47995 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47995 From: "Gareth Knight" References: <40B60C694F60D311ABB50090279411ABE9663B@THE_EXCHANGE> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:16:09 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: What do you think about the A600? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Johnston > Talking of Freaky ports, anyone remember the Acorn A3000's ones? They were > in a recess, underneath the keyboard!!! Same as the Atari ST? -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet! ------------------------------ message 47996 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47996 From: "Gareth Knight" References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:46:24 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: A crappy announcement to have to make MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost muttered: > Well excuse me for writing in several styles. Perhaps I should have a > tag for those who are hard of thinking? But AWeb doesn't support it!!!! -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet! ------------------------------ message 47997 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47997 From: "Gareth Knight" References: Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:54:39 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: New ish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost wrote: > > Had a flick through, spotted my typo on the afb page, noticed the picture > 3. All speeeling mistaks orthor's own. 4. Rich has horny thumbnails! Is there no end to the devils work? -- Gareth Knight Amiga Interactive Guide http://aig.amiga.tm Mystery of Life? I found it on Aminet! ------------------------------ message 47998 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47998 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:57:12 -0800 From: "Steven Holmes" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Thanks for CDRW help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to the 2 people who responded to my question regarding drawers in the root of a CDRW using MakeCD. Your help was spot on, and I thank you for that! :-) Apologies for not remembering your names! I got my HD backed up as I wanted on CDRW, and went about the installation of the 2nd hand 3.5" IDE HD I had bought, but there are hard errors on the drive (it makes quiet ticking noises and struggles to format certain parts of the disc, resulting in corrupt files after copying). I bought the drive as A1 condition from a seller from Amibench. Without going into great detail, it looks as though I will have a job to get my money back. How do I go about this properly with a private second hand sale? Steven Holmes ------------------------------ message 47999 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47999 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:02:28 -0800 From: "Steven Holmes" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] MakeCD help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Whilst I am thinking about it (see previous post), does anyone know how to fix my MakeCD problem? Basically, the damn program won't keep my registration code saved and I have to enter it every time I want to use it! Aaaargh! Nnnnngggghh! :-( I am using an original commercially purchased MakeCD TAO and the commercially purchased DAO update (I think that is the right way around! ;-) ) Any help would be appreciated, as some of you will know, the bloody code for MakeCD is a pain in the arse to type in to say the least, let alone having to do it every time I boot the program! Steven Holmes ------------------------------ message 48000 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48000 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:06:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sean, >> Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really >> tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could >> use it :) Any other suggestions? >> >> If it helps, the line in installer fails on is: >> (effect "lower_right" "radial" $FFFF00 $FF0000) > > What are you using for a cd rom driver? I'm using AmiCDFS. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 48001 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48001 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:09:32 -0800 From: "graeme meek" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] AWEB SE OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, i got the aweb browser with the OS 3.5 CD-ROM and cant for the life of me get the browser to display the images on the screen, i have tried every setting i can think of please help graeme meek ------------------------------ message 48002 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48002 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:10:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <88nako$ojsn@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re:The bigger the stick,the bbigger the bump. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Steven On 20-Feb-00, you wrote: > I got my HD backed up as I wanted on CDRW, and went about the > installation of the 2nd hand 3.5" IDE HD I had bought, but there are > hard errors on the drive (it makes quiet ticking noises and struggles > to format certain parts of the disc, resulting in corrupt files after > copying). Have you tried a low level format?(he said hearing screams of protest from the back rows) > I bought the drive as A1 condition from a seller from Amibench. Without > going into great detail, it looks as though I will have a job to get my > money back. How do I go about this properly with a private second hand > sale? If you still have the e-mail address start by telling him what the problem is and you are not happy!.If that does not work GET NASTY and threaten him with a solicitor(that works over here)? Not much help i know, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same. -- Mike Dennison ------------------------------ message 48003 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48003 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:15:26 -0800 From: "Eric Oddy" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: ADF Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit andrew crowe wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47989 > Hi Everybody, > > > ADFs themselves aren't illegal, anymore than mp3s are illegal. It's > > the things people do with them that's illegal. I think it's technically > > still illegal to download commercial games, even ones that were first > > released over 10 years ago, as i doubt the copyright on them has > > expired. *But*, for games that old, I don't think many people would > > mind, it's hard to see what market you could be damaging, although > > you are supporting the Evil pirates in doing so. Or an Amiga > > company could buy the rights to those games and then distribute > > them on a CD, so by downloading them you could be harming sales > > of that... > > Actually, pirate games on any system are potentially harming sales of amiga games: Why buy commercial games for one system when you alreay have a load of free ones? I mean, who needs Wipeout2097 when I can get Wip3out for a fiver? (not that I /could/ run Wipeout2097 on my amiga, even if I wanted to ;) > > See ya :) > -- > Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing > http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 > Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update I must stress that the addresses I gave for the amiga games are legal downloads according to the February edition of AmigaPlus alongside a long article explaining how it came to be. If you are unsure eMail the editor on:- info@amigaos.de I'll bet my boots he speaks English. ------------------------------ message 48004 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48004 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:20:40 -0800 From: "Eric Oddy" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] P.Cs threat on my life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the HTML, I'm a PC user as well you know so that makes me half stupid. That aside, you're still not big enough. BFN. Eric ( ex SAS ) ------------------------------ message 48005 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48005 Date: 20 Feb 2000 0:23:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: From: "Andy Mills" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jani Mkitalo, on 19-Feb-00 21:30:40 you said about: [afb] HTML question >Hello, >How do I stirp away the blank spaces between FRAMEs of a FRAMESET? >Disabling frameborders and setting the margins to zero brings the >frames almost together, but a small whitespace remains (except on >IBrowse, which I guess goes against conventions here). HTML has no >command for this, but perhaps the effect could be achieved through CSS >or JavaScript? I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but you'll just have to try it and see which works... -- The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk -- He who laughs last probably made a backup. ------------------------------ message 48006 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48006 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:33:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88nc0o$kojo@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: P.Cs threat on my life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eric, > BFN. Eric ( ex SAS ) You know, if I was going to kill someone's cat, the first thing I'd check would be that he had never been in the SAS... Bauglir ------------------------------ message 48007 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48007 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:33:59 -0800 From: "Alex Paton" In-Reply-To: <88nbbr$bhn7@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AWEB SE OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Greame, > > i got the aweb browser with the OS 3.5 CD-ROM and cant for the life of > me get the browser to display the images on the screen, > i have tried every setting i can think of please help > > graeme meek Sounds like you need to instal the Gif data type. See Ya Alex Paton ------------------------------ message 48008 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48008 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:34:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerald On 20-Feb-00, you wrote: >> What are you using for a cd rom driver? > > I'm using AmiCDFS. On the Amiga OS site there is a list of tips & tricks and problems with OS3.5(written in German)It states that ASIMCDFS causes problems with the installer and causes it to fail!They say download the demo version of IDE Fix 97 from the Aminet and install it to cure this problem? I dont know if this helps as you are using AMICDFS? Sorry, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------ message 48009 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48009 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:41:16 -0800 From: "Eric Oddy" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: P.Cs threat on my life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gerald mellor wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48006 > Hi Eric, > > > BFN. Eric ( ex SAS ) > > You know, if I was going to kill someone's cat, the first thing I'd > check would be that he had never been in the SAS... > > Bauglir > I was fourteen when that happened, SAS only recruit experienced soldiers. Doh ! Everyone knows that. Eric ------------------------------ message 48010 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48010 Date: 20 Feb 2000 0:52:7 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88kiql$3jug@eGroups.com> From: "Andy Mills" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello jtu, on 18-Feb-00 22:58:30 you said about: [afb] fusion and shapeshifter >i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition >for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try >out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the >problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is >not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an >ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly helpfull >and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk but >still have the ability to use fusion. Using HDToolbox, select your Mac partition, tick advanced options, click on "change" and in the "Identifier" field, enter "0x0" (without the quotes) and then save your settings, etc. This should stop your Mac partition from having an icon on Workbench. Disclaimer: I take no responsibility if you fudge it up... ;) Or you could get DOpus and tell it to hide bad disks, or just hide that volume. -- The Amiga Resource - http://www.amigaresource.org South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk -- Another satisfied customer. We ought to have him stuffed.... ------------------------------ message 48011 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48011 From: Stephen Webber Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:56:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerald On 19-Feb-00, you wrote: > Yes, I did the pre-install of WB3.1 first, SnoopDOS doesn't really > tell me anything helpful, and I'd have to buy DOpus before I could use > it :) Any other suggestions? > First you have to install 3.1. Then you have to do the 3.5 pre-install, followed by a reboot, followed by the 3.5 main install. The only problem I had (installing to a blank partition) was that for some reason the scsi.device patch didn't like my 1200's built in IDE port (the one it's supposed to be compatible with and designed for!) Hope this helps Regards -- Stephen Webber stephen.webber@orange.net ------------------------------ message 48012 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48012 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:29:35 +0200 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.......... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Has Everyone Gone To Bed!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. ------------------------------ message 48013 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48013 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:02:49 +0100 From: Tudor Davies References: <20000216112644.A39690@high5.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Where's Tudor (broken leg) was Sorry for being MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost wrote: > Wow! Get better soon. Here are some virtual grapes: > > \ > oooOoo > OoooO > oOo > oO > O Hmmm, they were lovely. Hang on, now I need the toilet and I live in a 3 storey house with (you guessed it) the bog on the top floor.... Damn you :) > Why do I now have Preston the Cyberdog as he appears from the knitting > machine in my head when I think about you? :) Well it was "a close shave" for me as well - doh! Partly robot - I'm working on becoming the world first human magnet - over the next few weeks and months I am going to magnetise my metal bits and see what fun I can have with a magnetic ankle ;P So no more installing Zorro cards with my feet... l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 48014 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48014 From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:36:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 20-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote: > Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the > Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even > started: > > Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3. > > What's up and how do I fix it? :) > > Cheers, > Bauglir I recall I got exactly the same error when installing my 3.5... now, are you installing it onto a *different* HD, instead of overwriting your original WB partition? If so, read on... I had to switch HDs and boot from the newly installed 3.1 before the 3.5 installation worked - which was a pain as I had to manually install the CD drivers first (3.5 installation provides you with a CD driver BUT since you cannot get into the installation process you cannot do that... :( ). It appears the installed uses some 3.1 processes and if you boot from 3.0 it wont work... - Jani -- "The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity" ------------------------------ message 48015 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48015 From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:03:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: SRTICQ prob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote: > Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here, > which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :) > > Bauglir Yeah, I noticed when I went to the site. However, the problem still persists; I cannot log in. Actually, that is, I cannot get an UIN. The newer versions dispense with the separate "get UIN" gadget so I am assuming here they attempt to generate you one when you go online for the first time... - Jani -- "The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity" ------------------------------ message 48016 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48016 From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:54:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <889.85T2703T235685ajmills@wharne.u-net.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 20-Feb-00 Andy Mills wrote: > I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME > and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but > you'll just have to try it and see which works... Yes, that does the trick, in the FRAMESET tag. Oddly, I didnt notice this when I was reading the official HTML4 specification at W3Cs site - or I just wasnt looking closely enough. O_o Now the pics look just great as they arent broken up by that frame divider. Thanks! - Jani -- "The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity" ------------------------------ message 48017 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48017 From: Dauber Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 21:35:57 -0500 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] DOpus AppIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I'm sure there's an easy answer to this, but I can't find it in the manuals.... My YAM and Miami AppIcons won't display on my DOpus screen, Workbench Replacement Mode. I'm using version 5.82 -- supposedly the bug-fixed version -- over OS 3.5. According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still just little dots. Any ideas? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dauber * ICQ: 28677921 | "Van Dyke Parks is the biggest butthole... dauber@wallnet.com | the biggest butthole in the world!" Ocean Grove, New Jersey | -- Brian Wilson Dauber IS Possible! | www.wallnet.com/~dauber -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ message 48018 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48018 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:08:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sean, > On the Amiga OS site there is a list of tips & tricks and problems > with OS3.5(written > in German)It states that ASIMCDFS causes problems with the installer > and causes it to > fail!They say download the demo version of IDE Fix 97 from the > Aminet and install it to > cure this problem? > > I dont know if this helps as you are using AMICDFS? I could try this, but I don't know if it would do any good. I have IDE Fix '97 (registered), but I don't use it anymore since I got my Power Flyer. IIRC it comes with a version of CacheCDFS, maybe this is what they're suggesting will work, however I could never get that to work, it always crashed my machine when the file system was mounted, which is the reason I use AmiCDFS. Surely *someone* out there must have installed OS3.5 using AmiCDFS. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 48019 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48019 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:10:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stephen, > First you have to install 3.1. Then you have to do the 3.5 > pre-install, followed by a reboot, followed by the 3.5 main install. Yeah, i know that, I've been following the instructions in the Installation manual. But I can't get any further than installing 3.1. Bauglir ------------------------------ message 48020 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48020 From: Gerald Mellor Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 03:17:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jani, > I recall I got exactly the same error when installing my 3.5... now, > are you installing it onto a *different* HD, instead of overwriting > your original WB partition? If so, read on... Nope, I'm overwriting my Workbench partition, or at least I'm trying to :) > I had to switch HDs and boot from the newly installed 3.1 before the > 3.5 installation worked - which was a pain as I had to manually > install the CD drivers first (3.5 installation provides you with a > CD driver BUT since you cannot get into the installation process you > cannot do that... :( ). It appears the installed uses some 3.1 > processes and if you boot from 3.0 it wont work... Well I have 3.1 installed now, and I have rebooted my machine since I installed it (actually, IBrowse 2.1 kindly rebooted my machine for me :). And I copied my CD0 dosdriver back onto the partition so that I could read the CD. So I still can't see what's going wrong. I really don't want to have to resort to doing this all manually :( Bauglir ------------------------------ message 48021 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48021 From: Richard Lane Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 04:59:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: DOpus AppIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dauber On 20-Feb-00, Dauber wrote: > Okay, I'm sure there's an easy answer to this, but I can't find it in the > manuals.... > > My YAM and Miami AppIcons won't display on my DOpus screen, Workbench > Replacement Mode. I'm using version 5.82 -- supposedly the bug-fixed > version -- over OS 3.5. Convert the files that are the icons displayed by the programs into the New O/S3.5 type, just load them into IconEdit and save them out again. For Miami these are .... ENVARC:sys/def_MiamiApp.info ENVARC:sys/def_MiamiAppOnline.info and for YAM.... YAM:icons/new.info YAM:icons/old.info YAM:icons/empty.info YAM:icons/check.info You should also convert ENVARC:sys/def_mui.info as well > According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for > NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand > the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your > user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still just > little dots. This was updated in 5.82, NewIcons are now handled by the new version of the icon.library. But using newicons as Appicons isn't supported.. yet. convert them to OS3.5 colour icons. -- Best Regards, Richard Lane - richard@amiga.prestel.co.uk richard@magnumopus.co.uk Author: AmiNET - biz/dopus/Magnum_Opus31a.lha Web site - http://www.magnumopus.co.uk -- VIZ Top Tip #559: Give off-duty policemen a taste of their own medicine by stopping them in the street and asking them where they are going. ------------------------------ message 48022 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48022 From: Pekka Sippola Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:42:34 +0300 In-Reply-To: <88kiql$3jug@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello jtu > sorry but i thought that i would also add a little question about > blizzkick i am having a little trouble with adding the EXTRESBUF > option, no matter how i structure the command line the applypatch > program refuses to accept it when creating a ro file. any help would > be fan dabby dosy, also can the prepareemul and fusionreserve options > be used together-ive had no luck As SS works happily with RsrvWarm, might it work also with fusionreserve? Regards -- Zipper proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91 now cooking with A4000/233PPC ------------------------------ message 48023 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48023 From: Jon Barker Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:58:57 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: SRTICQ prob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Jani On 20-Feb-00, Jani Mkitalo wrote: > On 19-Feb-00 Gerald Mellor wrote: >> Well 0.1578 isn't the latest version either. I'm using 0.1726 here, >> which, as of the time of writing, *is* the latest version :) >> >> Bauglir > Yeah, I noticed when I went to the site. However, the problem still > persists; I cannot log in. Actually, that is, I cannot get an UIN. The > newer versions dispense with the separate "get UIN" gadget so I am > assuming here they attempt to generate you one when you go online for > the first time... > - Jani The new beta's are broken, it's a known problem. Use version 0.1578 and that should work. Then use the latest version, Cheers -- ----------------------------------------------- Jon Barker ICQ:20786000 ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 48024 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48024 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:01:51 -0800 From: "Ian Henderson" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Help!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit simon mason wrote: > I did exactly the same when I got my OS3.5. If you want to partion anew like > I did then reformat and alter your partitions. Install your old OS. I then > had to install my IDE fix so it could recognise my set up(mainly the cd). > Then simply install your new OS. Cheers Simon, One little question though... As I understand it Ive got to clean everything off my drive then Re-install my Old os... can I not just install 3.1 from the cd (Im new to all this sorry) then install 3.5 instead of having 3.0, 3.1 & 3.5 installed on my Vsmall 100mb HD? Thanks 4 Yr time ------------------------------ message 48025 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48025 From: Jon Barker Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:07:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88n87m$jusu@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: YAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello darren On 19-Feb-00, darren glenn wrote: > I cannot send e-mails at all through yam or any other e-mail program > this is really annoying me now > My config is fine and it works on my brothers. Ive tryed everything, > tryed using several accounts, reinstalled yam, genisis, workbench > partion > and still it doesnt work why? can anyone help please im desperate. > email me on darren@glenn1000.freesreve.co.uk > Daz You need to get your address right first. I'm assuming that your dial in ISP is Freeserve? Type *smtp.freeserve.net* in the server gadget of YAM's TCP/IP page Domain will be *glenn1000* Make a new POP3 entry of pop.freeserve.net glenn1000.freeserve.co.uk Good luck Cheers -- ----------------------------------------------- Jon Barker ICQ:20786000 ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 48026 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48026 From: "Simon Hitchen" Date: 20 Feb 2000 09:21:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: OS3.5 help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Gerald Mellor, > Hi, can someone help me out here. I'm trying to install OS3.5, but the > Installer script is throwing an error at me before it has even > started: > > Interpreter: Executing non-function in line 3. > > What's up and how do I fix it? :) Sounds like it's using the 3.1 installer to run a 3.5 installer script, try copying the 3.5 installer from the CD to your sys:C dir. -- Simon MailTo:simon@gadge.u-net.com simon@satanicdreams.com http://www.gadge.u-net.com ICQ: 22707489 A1200T-060/50-48+4+2MB-CD-HDx2-V90-SVGA-SCSI-ZII-CGX/3D-OS3.5 ( Health Warning!! - This Amiga Is Genetically Modified(tm) ) ------------------------------ message 48027 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48027 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:13:09 +0100 From: Tudor Davies X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Zorro III Memory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A quick question : I have 128mb on my Apollo 4060 card in my A4000. Does this use part of the Zorro III memory space? If not, and the Zorro III memory space is 2Gb, how can I install that much memory in my A4000? Even if I bought 5x DKB3128 cards and put them in my A4000T, I would only have 684Mb - so what is the use of saying 2Gb limit when there is *no way* to put that much in the machine/ Which brings me onto my next question - apart from the DKB3128, what other memory cards are there? I would love to see a Zorro III memory card capable of dealing with 72pin SIMMS (EDO/FPM/PARITY, 60/70ns) for a good price. Who would make such a beast and who would be interested? l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 48028 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48028 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:13:22 -0800 From: "David Plunkett" In-Reply-To: <88kiql$3jug@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: fusion and shapeshifter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "jtu" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47865 > i have been using shapeshifter for ages and have a dedicated partition > for it but since buytioing the latest af and afcd i would like to try > out fucion to see if it is as good as shapeshifter is, but... the > problem is that whilst shapeshifter can recoqnise a partition that is > not automatically mounted by dos fusion can not and i hate havig an > ugly dh2:$|&%^ icon on my workbench can any of you increadibly helpfull > and intelligbent people help me to hide this amigados invalide disk but > still have the ability to use fusion. > I used to have the same problem. Now I have Workbench 3.5, and it has a nice workbench prefs feature where you can select which partitions you want to appear. I just turn off the Mac partition (and the Windows 3.1 one too). Works well. Regards David ------------------------------ message 48029 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48029 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 02:30:15 -0800 From: "Will" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gerald mellor wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47983 > On 19-Feb-00, Will wrote: > > I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing > to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in > AF, this is the place to mention it. If you read my letter in AF you will see my point. > Thos programs don't "sell" on the PC, they're programs that people > download for free from the Internet. I don't see how anyone's making > money through MAME or UAE or through all the ROM and disk images on > the net. This is where computer entheusiasts completely fail to identify a market. Whilst you or I and everybody on this list may be familiar and literate with computer technology the average person hasn`t a clue and doesn`t even know what the word rom means. This is the target area, if you go into PC world or Gameworld or any computer fair you will see dozens of these games for sale. > So what do you suggest *is* the reason? I'm fairly certain both those > things had a major part to play in it. This is a well worn argument which I don`t see a point in going into now, the fact is that it the classic Amiga is finished and there won`t be a new one. > > >> It was probably something they'd been wanting to say for years, but > >> couldn't due to fear of losing sales. > > > > If the 500 was so obsolete why were they afraid of losing sales? > > I didn't say it was obsolete back them, back then? - it`s only last year. > but if games companies had taken a risk and released software that required > faster machines, more people would have upgraded. Wrong, the average person wanted a PC because they are perceived as easy and most important of all - compatible with everybody else. Also, I and numerous others do not use a computer mainly for games and game playabilbity is not a consideration. > Instead, for years we got shit games without the features of their PC > counterparts because in their opinion the Amiga wasn't capable of it. Take a > look at Championship Manager 2 for an example. I have zero interest in football or sport. Most of the games bought nowadays are for Playstations and Nitendo64s. Most people buy a PC as an easy way to get onto the net without having to understand how it works and to be able to use Word and other Microsoft office applications. No matter how much you upgrade an Amiga you cannot open a Word document unless you use RTF. Also, the 1200 has the restrictions of chipram so in order to handle large graphics files a graphics card and zorro expansion are required. The cost of these plus towering up the 1200 is near to buying a complete pc and you are then stuck with a third rate graphics card which won`t hold a candle to a voodoo 128 bit card or a Creative Soundblaster. This is why the Siamese system came out - did you buy that? I did and can use Opus to access anything on the PC. > > They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing > > anything worthwhile anymore. > > So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga > anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with > us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know. I don`t have any duty to support any hardware or software developer or supplier, anybody who thinks that they should has fallen for the con trick. Several recent experiences have also led me to believe that certain Amiga suppliers advertise items which they don`t have in stock and only order the stock once they have assured sales. I also am now finished with suppiers who give poor support, I have waited weeks to get an email reply from Amiga suppliers compared with hours for PC software support. Digita, however, were great but now that they have gone these won`t be a decent word processor developed for the future nor any mailing list programes. I recently tried to get Pagesream 4 off the net and their website stated that they had moved to new offices. I wrote to them at the new address without reply. > Or perhaps you don't > know, since you don't read Amiga mags anymore... I did look at the last issue and it featured a photo of two people in a pub celebrating the take over by Fleecy Moss. We all laughed out loud that this grande meeting was worthy of mention. Am I expected to pay six quid for this? Will Will ------------------------------ message 48030 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48030 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:52:20 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jani > > I believe what you are looking for is FRAMESPACING="0" in the FRAME > > and/or FRAMESET tags - sorry, I can't remember exactly which now, but > > you'll just have to try it and see which works... > > Yes, that does the trick, in the FRAMESET tag. Oddly, I didnt notice > this when I was reading the official HTML4 specification at W3Cs site > - or I just wasnt looking closely enough. O_o The reason you couldn't see it is because it isn't in the spec :-) I'm not sure what FRAMESPACING is supposed to do, but if you want to keep your pages legal you might like to try fiddling about with FRAMEBORDER, MARGINWIDTH and MARGINHEIGHT (they're for the FRAME tag). Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in July. ------------------------------ message 48031 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48031 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:08:21 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: Uninitialized Partition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Yesterday I installed loads of software onto my new (replaced) >10.2Gb hard drive. After leaving the computer on for quite some >time I have lost my partition. >The problem is that I do not know what software to use to validate or >repair it again because of its size and configuartion. BTW, this >partition did not become 'uninitialized' due to crashing or turning >the computer off during a write. >The 10.2Gb drive is split up into 4 partition 3.8Gb, 3.8Gb, 1.7Gb, >0.5Gb. However, the other partitions on this drive still work. >I used to use Disksalv2 but I think that it might not work with >partitions over 2Gb. What else can I use? The current repair utils will work with partitions below the 4Gb limit. You didn`t say which partition has become invalidated? Anyway the only thing you can do is copy the files onto a backup or another partition and reformat again to use it again. Peter Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48032 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48032 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:10:40 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: Amiga & Realaudio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys. >Is it possible to listen to radio stations (or anything else) that >broadcast using the format audio/x-pn-realaudio? I'm using V3 at the >moment (warts n'all) Nope, RA is not available on the Amiga except a really old RA player. Get a real Radio or find a PC with RA installed on it (like I have). Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48033 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48033 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:16:58 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: Installing linuxPPC 1999 - xwindows problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hi Everybody, > I've got the LinuxPPC cd off a friend, but I'm having trouble getting = >Xwindows to work: >I followed the exact same procedure that I used to sucsessfully install t= >he LinuxPPC that came with AFCD40. > The problem is, when I run startx it brings up the b&w screen with the= > cross-shaped mouse pointer. It then bombs out with this error: >Fatal server error: >Caught signal 11. Server aborting > So, does anyone know what could be the problem? I've tried with differ= >ent versions of the kernal, XF68_FBDev etc. to no avail... I recently installed Redhat Linux and had problems with XWindows, it turns out to be the video card driver that it didn`t like. Try using a different driver or download a later version and select it with XF86Setup. Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48034 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48034 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:10:14 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: VistaPro + PPC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, >Is there a way of pursuading VistaPro to use my PPC for rendering? >(Just on the off- chance) Fat chance, no 68k applications will use the PPC because the PPC does not understand 68k code. You`1l have to rewrite it to use PPC code. All I can suggest is upgrade to the new G3/G4 card which will run 68k AND PPC code on the PPC chip (68k code will be emulated). Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48035 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48035 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:13:55 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: jammed e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:04:45 -0800 From: "Graham Persson" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] jammed e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I can't download my mail(it stopped halfway thru yesterday 13th) > also the mail i did download was -771 days old?????????? > I hope someone can enlighten me > graham What email program are you using? There are some Y2K patches for some mail programs on Aminet for them. NetConnect 2`s email program has some date bugs and a few others. YAM works ok. Alternately, you may have a bad email message thats blocking your new mail. Try checking your mail via your browser (assuming your ISP supports that) or ring up your ISP to check your mailbox for you! Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48036 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48036 From: "Peter Hutchison" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:55:58 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] re: UK Aminet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hello, >Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but uk.aminet.net/~aminet seems to be >working again. Well, hurrah and hazzar! I`ve been using Paderborn for absolutely ages, nice to get our local mirror going again! Peter Hutchison http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/ ------------------------------ message 48037 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48037 From: Andrew Crowe Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 23:41:56 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88n3ls$4kqs@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > I seem to recall an American internet site advertising G4 for A500s I'll wager a fiver on it either being a joke, or a mis-interpretaion. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Mel Blanc, the voice of Bugs Bunny, was allergic to carrots. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------ message 48038 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48038 From: Ken Walsh Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:24:46 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Another free-calls Internet service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Chris > Hi All > = > Thought this might interest a few of you. > = > Telewest are doing a new Internet offer through their ISP. You pay =A31= 0 a > month for the Internet account, but get free calls to the ISP 24 hours = a > day, seven days a week if you use a Telewest phone line. snip > If you are interested, have a look at www.telewest.co.uk or call 0500 5= 00 > 100. this is what I like to see good advertising as I'm a shareholder its good= news for me :-) the bad news as I'm not in the telewest area cannot take up the offer :-(= Cheers all the best Ken = = ------------------------------ message 48039 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48039 From: Ken Walsh Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:09:00 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, For some time I've been getting error's coming up saying YAM (error #80000008). I always used to get it when I had YAM and IBrowse open so thought it was because of that. But last few times only had YAM open and = now use V=B3 All I can do is reboot and start again, it does it off-line as well as on= -line and can strike any time. It was a 3 day gap from the last 2 times it stru= ck! then just did it again today after 7 day gap! See You -- = Cheers all the best Ken = = ------------------------------ message 48040 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48040 From: Ken Walsh Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:16:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88k9om$auor@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: A1200 Qs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Matthew >> That all depends on if it is a Mark I, Mark II, Mark III or Mark IV > > It's a Mark III. The BBOAHW (amigaworld.freeserve.co.uk) had some > limited info about it. The MMU is built into the '030 processor. In case you don't know the mark III has a 32Mb limit also I had trouble with this unit if you have the scsi kit for it, you might need a software patch called '1230ScsiFix' as I have the same Blizzard with scsi interface. Cheers all the best Ken ------------------------------ message 48041 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48041 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <000001bf7b91$3636d220$0100000a@peterspc> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Uninitialized Partition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Peter On 17-Feb-00, you replied to another mail: >> I used to use Disksalv2 but I think that it might not work with >> partitions over 2Gb. What else can I use? > > The current repair utils will work with partitions below the 4Gb > limit. You didn`t say which partition has become invalidated? > Anyway the only thing you can do is copy the files onto a > backup or another partition and reformat again to use it again. I did not see the first mail,the reason is he does not say what OS he is using or what Amiga/Controller etc.I had problems with dissapearing partitions when i installed OS3.5,it was caused by the NSDPatch in the new SetPatch. After correcting the NSDPatch.cfg file in DEVS: it was all hunky dorry again. Cheers, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error. -- Cicero ------------------------------ message 48042 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48042 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:24:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ken On 20-Feb-00, you wrote: = > For some time I've been getting error's coming up saying YAM (error > #80000008). I always used to get it when I had YAM and IBrowse open so > thought it was because of that. But last few times only had YAM open an= d > now use V=B3 > = > All I can do is reboot and start again, it does it off-line as well as > on-line and can strike any time. It was a 3 day gap from the last 2 tim= es > it struck! then just did it again today after 7 day gap! Have you got OS3.5 and MCP installed on your system? As when MCP is running and YAM2 / Ww6 or 7 / DOpus 5.11 are used it can cause = the system to crash like you report. Cheers, Sean. POWERED BY: = A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Mode= m EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=3DStill looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit on= to it! (Any offers!) ------------------------------ message 48043 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48043 From: George Davis Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 10:55:09 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Ancient Sony Monitor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,everyone. A while back I picked up a monitor for =A310 in a market. It's a Sony Trinitron 'Videotex Terminal' KTM-1430ub,and it has a round ten pin socket on the back. Anyone know if this can be used as a VGA display with an adaptor? (hopefully getting a blizzardvision soon:) PS. I called Sony,but they don't have any idea about it. Seeya. -- = Geo= ------------------------------ message 48044 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48044 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:36:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88khus$rose@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Pink Panther stole my jewel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18-Feb-00, FireW0lf wrote: > Now, I know things are getting grim down at AF Towers, but come on! I > pay SIX QUID points to the subs page.... half price.... cheaper than AA... and bigger Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash You're going to stick that where? ------------------------------ message 48045 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48045 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:26:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Geoffrey Dodd wrote: > Hi again well I`am using wb3.5 but if it is the filesystem canI get one > that can open the Cds. They're not dvds are they? they look identical... Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash Gotta find cuter dates...I hate chewing my arm off in the morning. ------------------------------ message 48046 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48046 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:30:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88k6kk$aavt@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Help!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 18-Feb-00, Ian Henderson wrote: > (But being a novice I dunno if I can delete everything > first B4 I start the Upgrade ) Just quick format the drive :) eveything 'll go (so note down any passwords and key files etc!) > Also Im want to Tower my Miggy up and > Attach it to a Monitor increase the memory > and add an accelerator .. But again the > choices are bewildering Firstly, what do you want to do with your machine and secondly how much do you want to spend? -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash Cats: God's way of telling you your furniture is too nice ------------------------------ message 48047 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48047 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:09:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <00cd01bf7af2$091af860$a1035cc3@ThisComputer> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Matthew Wise wrote: > -Why is there a 1inch black border on the left hand side in Multisync > scrnmodes e.g. Dblpal? because they do, they always do and always will :/ you could use a normal pal screen and crank the overscan up like I do > -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I thought > Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution, flicker-free? multisync monitors have never fixed that, you need a flicker fixer. When I was upgrading I had the choice of a svga screen with a scandoubler and flicker fixer or a multisync one. with the s/d and f/f I can use any cheepo pc screen and have no flicker :) Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash "These guys are pretty cool for a bunch of mimes." - Butt-Head ------------------------------ message 48048 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48048 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:11:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Wesley Potter wrote: >> -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I thought >> Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution, >> flicker-free? > The frequency is too fast for the monitor. hence flicker WHAT!!????? /me looks around trying to work out where the bullshit smell is coming from.. ;) Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash "I am the weirdo who sits next to you on the bus!" -Darkwing Duck ------------------------------ message 48049 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48049 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 19:12:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88m1s2$b9is@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: YAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, darren glenn wrote: > I can not send e-mails via yam or anyother program and i dont know why. > My details > are correct and it works on my brothers Amiga but not on mine. I am > pretty > annoyed about this and the yam website didnt help either. Does anyone > else suffer the same > problen or is it just me. You could at least tell us what the rror message is!??. Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash AI HACKERS do it robotically ------------------------------ message 48050 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48050 Date: 20 Feb 2000 11:7:1 +0000 From: "Oliver Roberts" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: DOpus AppIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20-Feb-00 04:59:04 GMT, Richard Lane wrote: > On 20-Feb-00, Dauber wrote: >> According to the manual, there isn't direct support from DirOpus for >> NewIcons, which both the YAM and Miami AppIcons are, but if I understand >> the manual correctly, you have to have the command "c:newicons" in your >> user-startup or startup-sequence, which I DO, but the icons are still >> just little dots. > This was updated in 5.82, NewIcons are now handled by the new version of > the icon.library. But using newicons as Appicons isn't supported.. yet. > convert them to OS3.5 colour icons. Just being a little pedantic here, but OS 3.5 does support NewIcons in AppIcons. It's DOpus that still has problems with this :( -- *Oliver Roberts* - Norwich, UK - Software Developer & Web Designer /oliver.roberts@iname.com/ | /oliver@amigaf1.freeserve.co.uk/ http://www.nanunanu.org/~oliver/ - ICQ: 34640231 -- PlayStation Amiga mailing list ==> http://www.egroups.com/group/psxamiga/ ------------------------------ message 48051 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48051 From: "James Potter" References: <88ofnn$stm2@eGroups.com> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:44:16 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rom: Will Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ? Sorry to butt in like this, but I think I really *am* missing the point! > > I'm sure AF *do* want your money, but it seems like you're not willing > > to give it to them. If there's something you want to see covered in > > AF, this is the place to mention it. > > If you read my letter in AF you will see my point. Which letter? What issue? I vaguely recall reading it, I think, something about a series on using the 500 for somethingorother, wasn't it? IIRC (and I might not) it was pointed out that there would not be enough reader interest in running such an article. Or was that someone else? If it was, I apologise - point me to your letter. > This is where computer entheusiasts completely fail to identify a > market. Whilst you or I and everybody on this list may be familiar and > literate with computer technology the average person hasn`t a clue and > doesn`t even know what the word rom means. This is the target area, if > you go into PC world or Gameworld or any computer fair you will see > dozens of these games for sale. Yes, the average person is the target area (and the target area for Amiga too, believe it or not) - and no, you do not see dozens of MAME or UAE packages for commercial sale. I certainly haven't. This isn't because it's an untapped market, it's because it's a legally dodgy area. Oh, unless you mean those generally poor retro gallery compilations you can get for the PS. > This is a well worn argument which I don`t see a point in going into > now, the fact is that it the classic Amiga is finished and there won`t > be a new one. And a big Hurrah for that, quite frankly. A new Clasic Amiga now would be commercial suicide. We need new, modern, hardware > > but if games companies had taken a risk and released software that > required > faster machines, more people would have upgraded. > > Wrong, the average person wanted a PC because they are perceived as > easy and most important of all - compatible with everybody else. Also, > I and numerous others do not use a computer mainly for games and game > playabilbity is not a consideration. True, but it is a fact that games drive PC technology, not business apps (though Microsoft seem to do their best in that regard), and this is just as true with the Amiga, from Shadow of the Beast selling the machine in the first place to WipEout being an excuse to get a PPC board and GFX card. > > Instead, for years we got shit games without the features of their PC > > counterparts because in their opinion the Amiga wasn't capable of it. > Take a > look at Championship Manager 2 for an example. > > I have zero interest in football or sport. Irrelevant. The point is that the Amiga *still was* a capable machine at that point and people ignored it. Your likes or dislikes do not change the fact that the evidence is there. > Most of the games bought nowadays are for Playstations and Nitendo64s. > Most people buy a PC as an easy way to get onto the net without having > to understand how it works and to be able to use Word and other > Microsoft office applications. [Snip about archaic 1200 hardware in comparison to PC stuff] This is all very true. It's the reason I'm looking forward to (and hoping to have) an AmigaPOP! (TM :) > This is why the Siamese system came out - did you buy that? I did and > can use Opus to access anything on the PC. A lot of people on this list use PC's anyway, that way they can access anything on the PC as well. > > > They already have, sales are so low that it is not worth developing > > > anything worthwhile anymore. > > > > So you're saying it's not worth buying anything for your Amiga > > anymore? It's not worth supporting the developers who are still with > > us? Not *all* the developers have left, you know. AH! No, what he's saying is that the Amiga is dead and buried and we should celebrate it's memory in emulation form while making our 500s and 1200s do more constructive things than tasks which can be done better on other machines. > I don`t have any duty to support any hardware or software developer or > supplier, anybody who thinks that they should has fallen for the con > trick. What con trick? A con trick is a malicious deception - I'm not aware of one of those. > Several recent experiences have also led me to believe that certain > Amiga suppliers advertise items which they don`t have in stock and only > order the stock once they have assured sales. Yes, this is how companies that supply minority goods do business. If they didn't advertise them, how would you know they were still in production? I'm waiting on a copy of CrossDos 7, others are waiting on BlizzardVisions, it's the price we pay for supporting such a small computer. > I also am now finished with suppiers who give poor support, I have > waited weeks to get an email reply from Amiga suppliers compared with > hours for PC software support. Have you tried phoning them? It can produce more immediate results. > Digita, however, were great but now that they have gone these won`t be > a decent word processor developed for the future nor any mailing list > programes. Digita were good. But I'd be happy with a product that wasn't specially written for the Amiga, like WordPerfect. > I did look at the last issue and it featured a photo of two people in a > pub celebrating the take over by Fleecy Moss. We all laughed out loud > that this grande meeting was worthy of mention. Am I expected to pay > six quid for this? With news as sparse as it is, anything is worthy of a mention. And no, you're not expected to pay six quid for anything. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's that simple. I think I can see what you mean. If the Amiga is as dead as you say (and I believe the current hardware is, not the concept) then what's the point of insisting that people ditch their 500s and upgrade to 1200s or 4000s when the 500s are still capable of doing certain things? The problem is that the Amiga is very much a minority, cult computer. The fact that you are demanding equality for an outdated model of a minority computer means that, as a user, you are a small percentage of a very small percentage. Small markets = high costs and the only way of making those costs viable is to only cover the forefront of that market where you are guaranteed sales. All I can say is that it looks as if AF isn't the mag for you, because while you are set in the opinion that the Amiga is dead and there is little point in trying to revive it's knackered corpse any further, AF is dedicated to covering that part of it which still has life. TTFN, James. ------------------------------ message 48052 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48052 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:43:54 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] ami yellow pages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Who runs (ran) the yellow pages thing? send all the offending images heere and I'll change them, then get a simple script from aminet to find and replace. Just find "yellow" and replace it with "yella" and ta dar!, new legal page :) Mash -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash Make me an offer. I have a computer to support!! ------------------------------ message 48053 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48053 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:13:03 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Sound cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14 Feb 2000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > > They are Zorro-based, I'm not sure about AHI support, they originally s= old ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > for =A3400 and =A3600 respectively (if I remember rightly). >=20 > According to the BBOAHW they don't support AHI. However, =A3400 and =A36= 00??=20 > Ouch! I'm not paying that for a sound card which will probably only offe= r > me something a =A320 PC sound card would provide ... it's bad enough havi= ng > to pay =A380 for a new ConciertoIV, as available from your local birds te= eth > distributor ... sure you can get SB 1024Live! for 45 quid. the price Ben quoted was the original price when the cards first came out - circa 1991 iirc. when SB16's cost quite a bit too ;-) =20 > > My main concern with Repulse is that it's being designed by people who'= ve > > never demonstrated sound audio hardware or general hardware design skil= ls > > previously. Sound cards are notoriously complicated to get right. >=20 > Well I was worried about it too, which is why I asked a few questions on > email which have yet to be answered .... sound cards have two difficult areas...those of signal/noise - you need quality components and good shielding and that of interupts/DMA - if the card is well designed, it'll fit in nice..if not, then other Amiga peripherals - eg gfx cards, can suffer =20 alan ------------------------------ message 48054 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48054 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:16:23 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, > No, I don't think we would. I think that as soon as we drop DD support, we'd > also lose all those readers who couldn't afford, or couldn't be bothered to > get themselves a CD-ROM drive, which would pretty much be all of them... I promise to you all that, if I win the lottery jackpot, I will upgrade everyones Amiga to have a CDROM drive..for free! alan ------------------------------ message 48055 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48055 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:19:08 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: <8898fo$53pa@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Yamaha 8424S (internal) Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, > found a "DB68M/50 PIN HEADER IDC INTERNAL SCSI ADAPTER" and > "M68PIN-F50PIN INT SCSI AD" at Jungle and I think I have seen 68 - 50 > converters. Will this work bearing in mind that I want to add a HD and > possibly a CD-ROM afterwards and dont want to buy more expensive > cabling. be VERY careful. very careful indeed with these 68-50 convertors. many of them DONT have termination on the upper 18 pins..this leads to problems. All you need is a 50-way cable, with a single convertor for the 68pin device > As well as cabling I am unsure about termination. The Blizzard manual > says that the card itself is terminated so only one other active > terminatior is required. However I have heard people say that the card > is not terminated. Which is the case ? What should I get / try. just make sure the last device in the chain has termination. the card should have it as well, or the signals would reach that end and bounce alan ------------------------------ message 48056 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48056 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:20 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: <794.79T1101T7543211neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14 Feb 2000, Neil Bothwick wrote: > If that were the case, there'd be no point in Stefan Stuntz putting > time into MUI 4. MUI 3 owners will have to pay an upgrade fee, just like > we did to upgrade to MUI 2. Otherwise, who's going to pay for all the > work? all those thousands of tight-fisted Amigans who havent yet registered? no, scratch that out, as they'd still be too tight alan ------------------------------ message 48057 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48057 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:21:55 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: CD writer problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 14 Feb 2000, Kevin Fairhurst wrote: > Well I now have the writer on my CS-PPC card, and it's written out a > partition back up from image file at 4x fine. However, I couldn't (as I > thought at first) create an audio CD from mp3 files directly - I got a > buffer under-run, although I'm not sure if I've got the PPC mpega libs > correctly set up. at 4-speed? You're trying to get your PPC to decode MP3's to AIFF audio at 4 times the normal play value AND burn it to the CDROM? me thinks a G4 is needed for that task ;-) alan ------------------------------ message 48058 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48058 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:25:22 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Guess what's on AF135? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ben Vost wrote: > There wasn't time to announce it in last issue (the one you're reading now), > but we'll have a stonking giveaway on our next issue. I know I've > previously said that I don't like putting full software on the cover, but > since so few people bought this software, he's pretty much left anyway and > we've got the very last version of his stuff on our next CD... stay tuned! great! looking forward to it! So, in this case, does he get a nice wad of cash from future publishing? Would this be enough for him to stay around? (trying to work out who you mean!) ...would this affect any other present Amiga software developers who might have been in competition with him on the s/w front? (just thinking about anyone who'd now suffer if the competition was given away free!) by the way, i got a letter from FP saying "Last Issue of AF"...i thought 'WTF???!!!?' - until I realised it was the subs department making a slight mistake (I'd sent off my renewal the week before) - phew! 8-) alan ------------------------------ message 48059 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48059 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:25:53 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Keyboards again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Hugo Wilkinson wrote: > i too would like to find an interface supporting multikey presses... i like > playing Doom and Quake with the keyboard.. but its just not poss without > multikey presses :( doesnt the latest Power and Ateo ones do this? alan ------------------------------ message 48060 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48060 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:29:19 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: VistaPro + PPC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Sandy Brownlee wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way of pursuading VistaPro to use my PPC for rendering? ;-) sure, its an idea that I had in my head a while back...but I'm still not sure how feasible (in termsn of performance gain) it would be. you simple recode the math ieee libraries for PPC usage and trap 68881/882 calls to a ppcfp.library (like calls to 040/060 are trapped) and do the maths through the PPC. alan ------------------------------ message 48061 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48061 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:33:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alan L.M. Buxey" In-Reply-To: <889k0l$9qok@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: More silly ideas from a newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Mr Halibut wrote: > Having just read the latest on Amiga's website, I thought I'd subject > you all to my ideas for Amiga's future. It's clear that Amiga must get > a machine out soon, so here's my ideal developer machine: > > - Altivec G4 CPU > - 128MB RAM why? AmigaOS must remain efficient! Granted, top-end 3D games will require that much > - 6.4 GB hard drive 8.6Gb 7200RPM UDMA-66 drive please > - 32x CD-ROM drive (DVD option) DVD 8X > - 18" flat-screen monitor :^) ;-) that must just be an option..but the gfx system must be able to output a digital signal! > The problem comes with the graphics. The Amiga has always been the best > graphics machine around. Do we want to throw away that heritage by just > using any old PC gfx card? I don't. I say; put one of the new Bitboys > gfx chips on the motherboard. This avoids any bus bandwidth problems > and gives you one of the best graphics chips around. Of course, Tao's > developer kit should be included. we need a hell of a 3D card...but we also need stuff that none of the PC chipsets have - decent sprite support for a start! lots of 2D function...multi-plane scrolling and other arcade f/x alan ------------------------------ message 48062 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48062 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:35:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Feb-00, Mark Wilson wrote: >> Its only noticable people using gay mailers... >> Do we have any marmite miners on the list? ;) > You need to grow up, and stop being so stupid. Oh lighten up! I was just jokingly replying to him. (limps wrist) you big sthilly, you! Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash SX=Sexually eXtinct,also known as neutered, ergo an SX ------------------------------ message 48063 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48063 From: "Daniel Thornton" Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:35:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:20:20 +0000 (GMT), kcci1@central.susx.ac.uk was largin' it with these words... [snip MUI related gubbins] > all those thousands of tight-fisted Amigans who havent yet registered? It's not "tight-fisted" to not register MUI; you register software because you like it, NOT because you like other software that happens to use it. It should be the (commercial) developers that pay for MUI, not the end user. -- The Wibble -- http://www.thewibble.co.uk --------------------------------- New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page... exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well... -- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble ------------------------------ message 48064 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48064 From: "Alex Furmanski" References: Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:05:37 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew > >> -Why are interlaced modes e.g. Pal 640*512 still interlaced? I thought > >> Multisync monitors could display practically any resolution, > >> flicker-free? > > > The frequency is too fast for the monitor. hence flicker > > WHAT!!????? > /me looks around trying to work out where the bullshit smell is coming > from.. ;) Don't be so quick to insult people. He is sort of right, as the flicker is caused by a frequency-related issue. Lovely job -- Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk ICQ: 51206302 This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in July. ------------------------------ message 48065 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48065 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:08:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: New ABC or XYZ %-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Alan On 20-Feb-00, you wrote: > I promise to you all that, if I win the lottery jackpot, I will upgrade > everyones Amiga to have a CDROM drive..for free! > Ta very much,but ive got three in my tower and two in my cupboard.Ill give it a miss this time,but you could buy me a PSX 2 seeing as you want to(future tense) give the money away! Tatty Bye For Now? Sean :-D POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -- Mark Twain ------------------------------ message 48066 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=48066 From: Oliver Esberger Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:06:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20000220111308.A59353@high5.net> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Zorro III Memory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tudor, On 20-Feb-00, you wrote: > I have 128mb on my Apollo 4060 card in my A4000. Does this use part of > the Zorro III memory space? If not, and the Zorro III memory space is > 2Gb, how can I install that much memory in my A4000? Yes, it is part of the Z3 memory space, and theoretically you could add up to 2 GB of memory... > Even if I bought 5x DKB3128 cards and put them in my A4000T, I would > only have 684Mb - so what is the use of saying 2Gb limit when there is > *no way* to put that much in the machine/ Because every Zorro card needs address space, for example my PicassoIV Z3 allocates 32 MB RAM. The problem is much clearer when you look at 16 Bit Zorro2 machines like A500 w/ busboard or A2000. When you had 8 MB of memory added (Z2 maximum), you could not add any other expansion cards like for example gfx adapters or Bridgeboards. Fortunately 32 bit RAM on accelerator cards is not part of the z2 address space > Which brings me onto my next question - apart from the DKB3128, what > other memory cards are there? I would love to see a Zorro III memory > card capable of dealing with 72pin SIMMS (EDO/FPM/PARITY, 60/70ns) for > a good price. Who would make such a beast and who would be interested? The problem with Z3 memory cards is that they are dead slow, even slower than the A4000 motherboard RAM. The fastest option is still to have the RAM on the accelerator board. Regards -- Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com.